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Mountain Hike recommended route Mountain Hike  · San Gregorio nelle Alpi

Crodèr Alti from Forcella Intrigós to Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi

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  • The magnificent diagonal ledge at the start of the steep section of the Crodèr Alti.
    The magnificent diagonal ledge at the start of the steep section of the Crodèr Alti.
    Photo: Mario Briotto, Little Fish Trek

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    Alpi Feltrine: circular tour around Sass dei Gnèi crossing the Crodèr Alti, a “super-viàz” combining difficult and very exposed ledges with very varied and steep channels.
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    Distance 9.4 km
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    Very technical hike that follows a truly wild route and must be followed with maximum attention.

    Between cairns and branch cuttings, it can be defined as well marked, but in various points, you still need a lot of care not to get off track: if you proceed even a few minutes without visualizing references, something is wrong, and it is better to stop immediately and think.

    The reference guide I cite in the itinerary description is “Agneléze Erèra Pizzòcco”.

    Excellent description, with the pleasant surprise on the day of a very recent dwarf pine cutting where the guide reports the only stretch without a trace.

    In my opinion, the Crodèr Alti can be divided into three well-distinct sectors:

    1. Climb, from the exit of the Crodèr Bassi final up to the cornices sector
    2. VERY EXPOSED cornices sector ending at the beginning of a long descent on a steep gully
    3. Series, a bit complicated but with indications, of various gullies and small gullies to climb towards the end of the Crodèr Alti at the saddle of Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi near the ruin of Casón de Piero Prano

    Author’s recommendation

    Advice: PAY ATTENTION to what I write below

    In the second sector of the Crodèr Alti on the cornices, the Sommavilla-Bonetti guide reports “two individual very delicate passages”, while the De Zordi guide indicates “three delicate overhanging passages”.

    From my point of view, there are two passages, because a third one in the middle can be avoided by circumventing it one meter below in strong exposure but on RELATIVELY comfortable holds.

    The other two may not be overhanging absolutely: the “rock hump” does not protrude beyond the base of small footholds, but if hands and feet are more or less on the same vertical, the body is outward to follow the rock hump, and so one hangs.

    You do not have to hold tightly with your arms, but YOU MUST HOLD, and you have to evaluate the holds with great confidence.

    The second passage seemed slightly more demanding to me: you do not immediately see the distant hold for the left hand, but “feeling” you find a “solid little handle”.

    After the two passages, attention is not over even if there is nothing more comparable.

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    Some of the published photos are taken vertically due to “narrowness and precariousness of the photographic spaces” available.

    In preview format, they do not display well, and it is better to look at them in full-screen mode to clearly understand some aspects of certain passages of Crodèr Alti.

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    To have a complete overview of the routes traversed and described in the Cimónega Group, Destra Mis, Monte Pizzocco, and Monte Tre Pietre area, you can refer to the link → Gruppo del Cimonega – Destra Mis – Monte Pizzocco and Tre Pietre.

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    T6II difficult
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    difficult

    Derived from the technical difficulty and the stamina requirements.

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    Forcella Intrigós, 1,757 m
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    Ricovero Casera Campo o Bivacco Casera Camp nell’alta Val Brentàz

    Safety information

    Avoid with snow, ice, or recent rain.

    In some brief sections of overhanging rocks with little or no sun exposure, it will be inevitable to find some damp or wet spots.

    There is also some natural dripping requiring caution on the lines to follow.

    Plan only with good visibility forecasts at the relevant altitudes.

    Check and firmly close the backpack and everything else before the ultra-exposed more delicate passages.

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    Regarding orientation, I reiterate: pay attention even if, overall, everything is well marked.

    It would be very tiring to recover an error here, and you must be clear-headed from start to finish, meter by meter... for every meter.

    You must be trained to recognize even the branch cuttings.

    Roadbook

    Premise

    This route was traversed on June 27, 2020, and all subsequent observations and considerations fully apply only to that day.

    The guide I refer to in this report is “Agneléze Erèra Pizzòcco Monti della Destra Mis” edited by Pietro Sommavilla and Paolo Bonetti.

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    Approach to the start of the Crodèr Alti

    You must go to Forcella Intrigós: then CAI trail 851.

    Then continue over the ridge towards north still on CAI 851 until the hairpin bend at about 1,500 meters near Covolo dell’Ortiga.

    From this hairpin bend, there is the exit trace of the Crodèr Bassi route which, in this case, is entered in reverse.

    (For the Crodèr Bassi route see the track of → Monte Pizzocco from Lago del Mis via Riva Ièrta and the Crodèr Bassi.)

    The reverse entrance is identified (in this season with tall grass) by observing some initial branch cuttings, and shortly after, cairns are also found.

    With a slight descent tendency, you arrive at the crossing of a channel in a slightly slippery section and enter into a small wood after climbing the opposite bank.

    Here you leave the trace (and the branch cuttings) of the Crodèr Bassi to climb to the right, more or less on the steepest slope, alongside the channel just crossed.

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    From the start of the Crodèr Alti route to the cornices sector

    From the start, following more branch cuttings uphill, you climb about 35/40 meters of elevation gain (according to my GPS) up to a rock band.

    WARNING: at some point, the branch cuttings guide right to the edge of the channel where there is a small path entering to the right with a clear cairn toward that path: I do not know where it leads, but it MUST NOT be followed for the Crodèr Alti.

    From the rock band, you comfortably climb left until doubling a ridge that opens the view on a wild and very steep mountain flank: a real crag.

    Here there is a spectacular rock bench (somewhat hollowed) ascending diagonally: it is the continuation of the route.

    The bench is traversed without real difficulties, and where it levels out just before a narrow section, you must leave it to the left.

    The point corresponds to a cairn all to the left above a small saddle, after all previous cairns were on the center-right.

    The small saddle makes it possible to cross the left ridge in the climbing direction that divides the bench from the steep channel beside it: you descend a few meters into this steep channel (not very steep at this head start) to soon turn right for another small climbing channel, initially rocky bottom and then grassy – cairns and branch cuttings certify you are in the right place.

    After the last cairn, you double a ridge on the flat toward the right and… the exposed and adrenaline-filled cornices of the Crodèr Alti begin.

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    Traversing the central cornices sector of the Crodèr Alti

    From the entrance point to the exit point of the cornices, it is about 250 meters in direct air line, but when you exit, it will seem you have done much more.

    It is impossible and pointless to describe this stretch meter by meter: it is all very narrow and very exposed.

    It is an up and down with short bursts to overcome/accompany the steep mountain flank, through ridges and heads of various small channels.

    There are various parts with a bottom dirty with gravel and not exactly stable but, fortunately, not in the two ultra-exposed and (more or less) overhanging passages mentioned in the first “SUMMARY” sheet of the hike.

    The two critical passages are in the first half.

    De Zordi, in his book, also mentions the passage of “two dreadful gorges”: these are also in the first half, but they are “more dreadful for the view than for the technique”.

    Very demanding indeed, but it is not over yet.

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    From the end of the central cornices sector to the exit of the Crodèr Alti on the Campìgol saddle of the Sass dei Gnèi near the Casón de Piero Prano

    The cornices end on a small ledge where you turn right on a steep descent down a gully.

    From here on, even if everything is well indicated by ground signs, there can be the greatest orientation problems.

    You need to descend about 90 meters of elevation according to the guide and also according to my barometric altimeter – for this last sector, I used the barometric altimeter to follow the altitude references indicated by the guide.

    After the very first somewhat narrow meters, the gully opens, and descending further, ahead to the right, you notice three rock spurs with two channels – the rightmost one rocky and the left one a steep grassy slope (which splits into two under the central spur): you will need to partially climb the right channel and then pass onto the grassy slope on the left to complete the climb.

    About halfway down the gully, there is a dividing ridge: you must keep right for the narrower branch toward the channels to climb afterwards – here I did not immediately see the cairns in the distance, but there is a cut branch on the left at the entrance of the branch.

    Before reaching the bottom of the gully, you climb and descend a short “hump” with a cairn on top.

    In the rocky right-hand channel to climb partially, there is the “usual signaling pattern”: cairns on the right and you exit when there is one all to the left above the dividing ridge with the channel beside it.

    From crossing the dividing ridge, there is a comfortable trace leading toward the grassy slope, which is climbed following numerous branch cuttings, among which I noticed some recent ones with visible resin on some branch stumps.

    You arrive under a rock spur with visible branch cuttings both left and right – on the right also a cairn, and I continued to the right.

    Here the guide writes: “... from the spur saddle continue on altitude toward east for about fifty meters among the dwarf pines (no trace: cleaning of this section is advisable) until you find an excellent cut again ...”.

    The work hoped for by the guide has meanwhile been done… VERY WELL!

    Now there is a very comfortable corridor of recent cuts, wide (at times) even two meters: a real highway.

    At the end of the new cuts, with a small descent, you enter onto a short and easy ledge below the rock band, and then with another small descent cross a narrow small channel to climb another one (a sort of notch) opposite and almost perpendicular to the crossing point (at first glance coming in, it isn't very clear where to go, but there are cairns).

    The small channel leads to double a ridge that leads to the base of the wide and long final climbing channel toward the Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi.

    Meanwhile, you must cross from right to left the wide, irregular and slightly unstable base of the basin you enter: here too the cairns help with the best possible line, but it is not exactly trivial.

    When fully on the left, you must climb over the initial rocky step, with a cairn visible above the step on the other side.

    Here the guide writes: “... then climb the rocky channels, keeping left branch upwards (west, cairns) with some rock steps (I, II)”.

    The first meters of climbing are actually quite constant on grade I with some grade II steps, until a cairn where it then levels out.

    The slope becomes comfortable until a narrowing with, a few meters before, a cairn leaning on the left side inviting to climb and continue on a walkway laterally inclined above the colluvium.

    Soon you turn left for another channel branch (always with cairns) that at the top “hits” an insurmountable cliff (also marked in the guide).

    The cliff is avoided by climbing further left until under a small rocky ridge with cairns on both created branches of the ridge.

    The cairn on the left, with 3/4 meters of steep grass, enters the dwarf pines without cuts but not too dense; the cairn on the right (further away in view) leads on a crossing style… previous cornices, which seems then to enter a cut of dwarf pines (but at that distance, I did not see well).

    I took left, walked a few meters uphill in the dwarf pines moving them without too much effort, and finally easily folded right to re-enter the channel above the cliff.

    Now all easy: slightly sloping rocky bottom that however points too much to the right compared to the arrival saddle of the Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi – so after a while I turned left on an easy grassy slope and, with some free turns, I arrived at the saddle at the end of the Crodèr Alti.

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    Return from the Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi with the first part via Borài de la Rosàlia

    A nice return would be climbing to the summit of the Sass dei Gnèi and down again via Forcella Intrigós.

    (For this variant see the track of → East Ridge of Pizzocco part 2: from Le Forche to Forcella Intrigos.)

    However, today some low clouds arrived, and it was not worth it given the zeroed panoramas.

    So, return following the Brown Trail of Troi de Sospiroi.

    It is a trail with several variants that descend both from the Campìgol of the Sass dei Gnèi and from Monte Fornèl.

    The trail markers, given the name, are brown, mostly on posts since you go over grassy slopes with few stones on the ground (there are more cairns than trail markers).

    I walked the first meters freely, then caught a trace and shifted, tending left, toward the variant descending from Monte Fornèl.

    More or less at about 1,400 meters altitude, turn right to leave the steep greens and enter the woods on a wide trail.

    From here you arrive at the junction for Casera Campo: still a short wooded section, easy crossing of a large grassy slope, and continuation with slight woodland ascent up to Casera Campo.

    After the hut, the trail continues in the woods (perfectly cleared from the storm fallouts of Vaia Storm) still slightly ascending until doubling a ridge to the right.

    Immediately after the doubling, there is a fork where you must go left in a slight descent toward the small fountain visible from that point.

    Continuing on a well-visible trail imprint, you arrive at the junction with CAI 851 of the outward journey.

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    Directions

    From SS 50, near Santa Giustina, turn uphill following clear road signs for San Gregorio nelle Alpi.

    Upon reaching San Gregorio nelle Alpi, follow signs for "Roncoi" and "Rifugio Casera Ere".

    Soon after the small inhabited center, turn left (Via Monte Pizzocco) also with signs for the Church of San Felice.

    Advance for about 1 km, and there is another left turn (with a white street number sign for Roncoi di Dentro) again with signs for the Church of San Felice and Rifugio Casera Ere.

    At this point, continue to the left curve of the paved road where the CAI trail 851 starts on the right.

    A few more dozen meters on asphalt, and there is a side road turning right from the main one with a sign (from a large wooden board) for the parking of Rifugio Casera Ere.

    After just over 1 km of mixed asphalt, dirt, and concrete road, you reach the traffic prohibition barrier.

    Parking

    Large parking area at the barrier of the traffic prohibition on the service road leading to Rifugio Casera Ere.

    Coordinates

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    46.125024, 12.026710
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    46°07'30.1"N 12°01'36.2"E
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    33T 270294 5112237
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    Book recommendation by the author

    “Agneléze Erèra Pizzòcco Monti della Destra Mis”

    edited by Pietro Sommavilla and Paolo Bonetti GIOVANNI ANGELINI FOUNDATION MOUNTAIN STUDIES CENTER

    Excellent description: it is the one I followed to complete the Crodèr Alti though I did not know even a meter before starting.

    This description starts on page 301 as itinerary “25.e” of the Sass dei Gnèi on the northern side.

    There are also some photos, from another side, with an overlaid ascent line – in reality, they are not needed on the ground for detail turns while progressing, but they give a useful idea of the general sense (and spectacularity) of the route.

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    “Rediscovered Trails and Viaz of the Alpi Feltrine and Val del Mis 61 itineraries”

    by Aldo de Zordi – Paolo Lovat – Ivan De Zordi – Renato Sperandio

    EDIZIONI DBS

    In this specific case, in this good guide, the description is somewhat too summary.

    Author’s map recommendations

    TABACCO publishing house map number 023 "Alpi Feltrine Le Vette - Cimònega" 1:25,000

    The CAI trail 851 is clearly indicated in red.

    There is a fairly precise black dashed line of the Brown Trail of Troi de Sospiroi.

    There is a precise black dashed line partially for the connection between the Brown Trail of Troi de Sospiroi and CAI trail 851.

    There is no indication for the Crodèr Alti.

    Book recommendations for this region:

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    Equipment

    Normal hiking equipment – trekking poles are useful during the approach and after the end of the Crodèr Alti.

    Keep in mind that most of the time the poles will remain hanging on the backpack.

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    Regarding the two very delicate passages on the cornices, the Sommavilla-Bonetti guide indicates the first is easily secured thanks to the dwarf pines, while the second is not protectable (recommended 30-meter rope).

    De Zordi generally indicates the need for a 20-meter rope.

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    Helmet is mandatory along the Crodèr Alti stretch.

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    Parts of this content were machine translated from Italian.

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    Difficulty
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    9.4 km
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    8:00 h
    Ascent
    1,380 m
    Descent
    1,380 m
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    1,757 m
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    927 m
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